sono nate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[luca1988]

Bellisima la mamma..

[geopardalis]

al momento ne sono nate 4 in tutto.... ma come si dice....? la speranza è l'ultima a morire!!!

[mamoz]

DIO ESISTE!!!!!
DIO ESISTE!!!!!
DIO ESISTE!!!!!
DIO ESISTE!!!!!
DIO ESISTE!!!!!DIO ESISTE!!!!!

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DIO ESISTE!!!!!
DIO ESISTE!!!!!
DIO ESISTE!!!!!
DIO ESISTE!!!!!
DIO ESISTE!!!!!DIO ESISTE!!!!!

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è esattamente quello che ho pensato quando le ho trovate....

[trifo]

Sei un grande Geopardalis,complimentoni vivissimi per le tue stupende "bambine"!!!

[Maria]

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il termostato della mia incubatrice è regolato al fine di mantenere la temperatura tra i 28 e i 30 °C

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VERY WELL, VERY WELL, PHANTASTIC. I am keeping temperature in incubator mashine of mine at 29.5 degrees C for the whole time for Indian Stars eggs, and also - some offsprings are hatchling in winter time. Nothing strange! It is always better to keep incubator temperature slightly lower and have total incubation time longer, than to increase it hyrring to get babies!
All congratulations, Marco

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luca... sai che ogni volta che metti un contenitore con dell'acqua combinano un macello...
con quale frequenza devo farle bere?

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Io finche sono cosi piccole le farei bere un giorno si e uno no, magari metti il solito sottovaso con l'acqua tiepida, cosi bevono, rimangono idratate e sono pure stimolate per i bisogni
Mi raccomando, tienici aggiornati con la schiusa delle sorelle e la crescita!

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Giusto, bravo Luca!

[Maria]

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ragazzi.... ed ora un pò di dati e foto per voi....
i genitori sono due geochelone pardalis babcocki importate dall'uganda da neonate e cresciute da me,
pesano rispettivamente: femmina 6500g; maschio 1800g

una ha sei anni e l'altra quattro.

i piccoli hanno iniziato a nascere dopo 87gg di incubazione a 28°C

alla nascita pesavano 17g e misuravano 38mm

è la seconda deposizione della mia tarta ed è la prima fertile.

Oh, my God, very, very well. Best wishes for all bred of yours, you are making all of us very, very happy.
Due parents of your babies are originate from Uganda, they will grow to be like animals I am attaching in some photos of mine. G. pardalis originate from Uganda are very beautiful animals, with phantastic paterns on carapax, very strong animals capable to bear very low temperature with no troubles.
The only few shipments of Leopard Tortoises from Uganda origine came in Europe from past, and you are very lucky to have some of them in your bred in Italy!
Best wishes to your nice animals once more!
Warmest regards, Marco

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[Luca-VE]

Wow, these pardalis are wonderful. Im sorry only for that they are WC, we hope a day of being able some to make less

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Wow, these pardalis are wonderful.

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Si,bellissime!Quando sono arrivate stavano tutte bene?

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marco,
dopo quanto ho letto, mi sento ancora più privilegiato ad allevare le mie tarta....
spero di vederle presto grandi come quelle delle foto....
sai dirmi quanti anni avevano?

[anto]

Però fa sempre un certo effetto vederle tutte ammassate li così!

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For G. pardalis, usualy incubation temperaturey varying between 28.8 and 30.0 degrees Celsius. But, as I wrote already, I am always prefering to make incubation on slightly lower temperature, to obtain longer period of incubation. On one previous message of mine, I made an mistake and gave wrong information to you. The right information would be: I am incubating eggs of Indian Star Tortoises of mine on 28.5 degrees Celsius during the whole time of incubataion!
Hatchling of G. pardalis after 87 days only is not wrong and unusual, there are records of captive born G. pardalis after 76 days of incubation time, too!
But, anyway, I would like to recommend to you, of course for future incubations of your Tortoise's eggs, to decrease working temperature inside of incubatior mashine slightly, i.e. to increase total incubation time for 100 days in total and over. It should give better final results in hatchling of your offsprings!
All the best, yours Marco

[DelorenziDanilo]

già anto! non è mai bello..

siccome per motivi di tempo non posso leggere tutto.. sono di allevamento o di cattura quelle bellissime tarta?

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ragazzi,
ringrazio tutti per i complimenti e per gli auguri, ma come dicevo precedentemente
vorrei qualche consiglio su come comportarmi in questi primi giorni....da chi ha esperienza perchè di libri ne abbiamo letto a dismisura ma l'esperienza sul campo è quello che conta...!
grazie mille

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There are many different options how to take care about dwarf gems. Anyway, I will try to give some experiences of mine shortly, as follows:

Due to different incubators mashines and recommended incubation temperatures, the eggs take anywhere from 87 to 163 days to hatch.
Captive leopards usually hatch with a good portion of the yolk sac still unabsorbed. In this case, I place the baby upright in a teacup or small container with moistened paper towel in the bottom. This keeps the yolk sac moist and the tortoise restrained so the yolk sac is not damaged until the yolk is fully absorbed, which takes a few days.
When the yolk absorbs, it is recommended to move the tortoise to a plastic shoe box lined with a thin layer of moist paper towels. The lower shell (plastron) is not fully flattened yet because the tortoise hatches kind of folded in half, with the shell still not fully hardened. If we made an mistake, and place the tortoise on a hard, flat, moist surface, the plastron will properly flatten out before hardening. All along, the tortoise is still in the incubator. When removed from the incubator and placed in suitable quarters, the hatchling tortoise is ready to be introduced to food and water.
The size of newly born G. pardalis is depending on
a) their monther's age and size; and
b) incubation time.
The average size for a hatchling (in this case of incubation time over 100 days, and females over 10 kgs of weight) is 47 millimeters straight-line carapace length, with an average weight of 27 grams.
So, your offsprings, due to female's size and incubatio time are realy, perfect animals.
Juveniles have identical requirements to adults, and particular attention should be paid to dietary management. An indoor pen of 50 cm X 50 cm is ideal for 'head starting', although we normally place neonates in a base-heated plant propagator tray for the first few months of life. A small basking lamp and Full Spectrum tube will encourage normal behaviour patterns and thermoregulation in them.

When feeding the young, you must provide a high fiber diet and make sure to avoid excessive protein, in addition to providing adequate hydration and calcium supplementation. I suggest you treat the hatchlings as you would the adults, with the exception that I recommend that you chop up the food for the hatchlings into roughly 0.5 cm pieces and mix it together so the tortoise will be sure to get a balanced diet at each feeding. Finally, there is no substitute for natural sunshine. Sunshine and a proper diet will ensure a well-formed and healthy tortoise. In the absence of sunshine, provide a good artificial UV light as the next best substitute.

When following the above regimen, expect normal growth at a rate of 2.5 cm per year!

Warmest regards, Marco